Podcast

Christina Miglino on Putting Your Emotions Into Motion

Some of the topics we covered in this conversation…

  • About her experience being six years old and surviving a brain tumor.
  • What it was like seeing angels during a traumatic time her in life.
  • How to recognize if you’re being a victim and how to change that.
  • About uncover unconscious belief patterns.
  • How she overcame her incredible fear of speaking on stage.
  • What she did to change the false belief that “her voice doesn’t matter”.
  • What to do when you get stuck in overwhelm.
  • How to move beyond feeling frozen in an emotion.
  • What is intuitively hand poke tattooing?

Here is the in-depth conversation…

Hi everyone, Ashley’s Stamatinos here. I have a very special treat for you today. As you can see. I’m here with my dear friend, Christina, welcome! Oh my goodness. I’m so excited that you are joining me here today and for those of you who do not yet have the pleasure of knowing Christina, let me just tell you a little bit about her so you can get to know her before we jump into conversation, which I’m so excited to chat with her. Christina Miglino is an empowerment coach, spiritual counselor and artist who’s traveled all over the United States and Canada as a public speaker, many workshops on empowerment and on the west coast and she’s a hand poke tattoo artist. Have you even heard of that? I mean, I had some questions about that. More about this. You know, also loves to incorporate the tattooing into these teachings of initiating, so super curious to hear more about that. Christina is super passionate about supporting women, in gaining emotional awareness, stepping into their power and listening more to their intuition so that they have the life and business that they have always imagined. So again, welcome. Welcome. Christina.

Ashley:, 00:01

Thank you so much, it’s so fun to be here with you. Thank you. Ashley.

Christina: , 01:25

So fun to be together! I mean, because I know even more than it was in this bio. I in my head, I have a budgeting questions and so I’m going to try to keep them kind of organize. Let’s, uh, let’s start from the beginning. What, for me a little bit more about you and your journey of getting here to this point or you know, or even becoming a, you know, uh, what you are now, what your know your gifts that you’re sharing with the world.

Ashley:, 01:33

Sure. Oh my gosh. There’s so many things.

Christina: , 02:01

I’m like, oh, that’s a big question.

Ashley:, 02:05

It’s big. Um, and my question back real quick is do you want, like I’ve shared with you some of my really personal, like early, early year stories.

Christina: , 02:09

Yeas please share it all.

Ashley:, 02:09

Yeah. So I think that sometimes we’re really blessed with these, like major downloads as young people. Um, and I didn’t know that that is what I was going to get, but turns out when I was six years old and my mom who’s here actually, I’ll have to get her if she can help me with the story. But from what I feel into what I remember is that at six years old I started getting these migraine headaches and I were very debilitating for me. So as a really little kid, I felt very disempowered because I was little. And then I also was going through a really painful experience and I’m over some years.

Christina: , 02:17

My parents were incredible during that time. You can only imagine having a child yourself, like what that must have been like, um, for them to take me to all these different dots thought many different kinds of doctors from holistic healers to psychics. Two people who did hypnosis to chiropractors, natural paths, you know, this whole thing. I’m trying to get answers. And what ended up happening is that I just got sicker and sicker and sicker and I ended up in the hospital. I ended up in children’s hospital in Seattle. And I was like, I want to say eight, eight or nine when I was really in there for a long period of time and they ran a bunch of tests and they couldn’t figure it out. But one of the tests they did was to do an MRI, a brain scan. And when they did this, they saw something abnormal in my brain and they called it…

Christina: , 03:05

They, they immediately call it a brain tumor, which is really intense if that’s totally not what you’re expecting from this, you know, we’re thinking, you know, they were thinking last resort, let’s do scans of her brain. Maybe we’ll see something that caused the migraines. And so they come back with this information to my parents and they say, we can’t believe it, but we’re seeing this abnormality. This is what it looks like. We don’t know how long she’s going to live. And so that, you know, instantly as a child, I, a couple of things happen. I’m a highly sensitive person. Always have been. So when I was little, I even questions that like I remember hearing it feeling very again, disempowered because the adults in my life where like this, it’s, you’re done. Like I don’t even know how long it will take, but we’re pretty sure that having a brain tumor in the middle of your brain in my hypothalamus, which is right in the center of your brain, is there’s a very low chance of surviving even a surgery if you have to have surgery, right?

Christina: , 04:03

So on top of that, they don’t think that that could cause the migraines. Right. So, so they’re seeing this problem. But then there’s also me just not being able to function. Like I wasn’t getting out of bed, I couldn’t brush my own teeth. I was struggling to function at all because of the pain I was in. So they put me in the child psych ward at Children’s hospital and it’s hard to even talk about what that’s like if you’ve never gone into a place like that because those people, those kids that we put in the psych ward in children’s hospital meant they have all different kinds of things going on there. The child that was dropped off there who just, her parents didn’t want her, so she was living there until they found a place for her to be. So that’s the kind of thing, like you can only imagine what that was like.

Christina: , 05:11

And um, when I was there, you know, all kind of like, get to the point. The point is I was ready to be done. I didn’t believe adults in my life were caring for me showing up the way that, that I thought they would show up as a little kid. You know, I’m eight years old. The, you know, the doctors there had a lot of stories about me making up my pain. I needed to start. Um, I had all these rules. They did behavior modification therapy where I wasn’t allowed to put my head in my hand. I would get, you know, I was on a point system, I had to get enough points to get snack time or to get a game or whatever. Didn’t care about any of that anyway because I could barely function. Um, and they had a woman come work with me and I think I mentioned this to you at another point.

Christina: , 06:05

I remember.

Ashley:, 06:05

She walked into my room. I was, I had a shared room with an 11 year old girl with an anger problem. I was like a littler girl in this room sharing it with this woman with intense emotional trauma. And this woman walked in and I was sobbing. I was sitting on my bed sobbing and she closed the door and she looked at me and she said, listen, you little, you better knock it off. I see right through you. And that was the person who was working on a meditation with me and get it, like calming my body, so I could be… weird stuff, right? So I get through, I want to say I get through maybe four weeks of living in this space and it came to a point where I was just ready to. I was really ready to be done with life and it’s sad to think that, but I remember looking out the window like, OK, how do I get through the window?

Christina: , 06:57

It’s doubled pained. Like I just need to end this. I laid down, I was in a lot of pain. It was nighttime and I just prayed to God. I was a catholic. I was a good Catholic girl at the time. So I was praying, praying, praying, just take me away, take me out of this body, like I’m ready to go. Yeah. So I got into that kind of liminal space. Like right before sleeping, I’m still in so much pain. I was just kind of trying to give into the pain, just let like take me away. And somewhere in that time I had this total. These two giant angels appear to me and it was, it was like a dream. It was like a vision. It was like it was really happening. I know my eyes were closed, but it was literally like I was in this other realm, bright light, the whole thing that you think when you think of angels, you know, it’s like bright, shining light and these, these, what look like female, you know, with really long hair, just like everything that I would look at as a little girl and go, oh my God, like somebody out there is like, cares.

Christina: , 07:52

Something is looking for me. So I listened to the vibration of this. It was so profound. There was so much life energy like given to me in this vision. And I knew that the message, they didn’t use words, but it’s intuition, right? Like I was feeling, um, I’m very clear voice. It was like I saw them and I got the whole message. Then the message was, you’re going to live through this. You have a mission, you’re gonna walk out of here and it might not be easy, but you’re going to do it. And I woke up a whole different person. My pain wasn’t gone. It was not different. But I woke up and I drew a picture of the angels. I have it somewhere and I just knew like something shifted in me to know that like I’m going to overcome this and as a little kid this is a great reminder for those of us who work with little kids or have a little kid like we, they, we, I knew so much at that time.

Christina: , 09:05

Yeah. And so having such clarity and you remember eight years old, like we all kind of by that time our remembering big experiences, you know. So I did walk out of there at some point because I started, I started doing everything they told me to do because I knew that was the thing I was supposed to do. They were like, here you got to do ab and C, you’ve got to get enough points so that we can see that the pain is going away or the perceived pain is going away. Right. Let’s pretend you know, like this is a little funny because later on I started acting. I never put that together. I was like, OK, I can act this out. You know, that’s so smart. Wild. Right? So I told you to pretend you just knew that’s what you needed to do to get where you want it to go.

Ashley:, 10:17

Yeah. And so having such clarity and you remember eight years old, like we all kind of by that time our remembering big experiences, you know. So I did walk out of there at some point because I started, I started doing everything they told me to do because I knew that was the thing I was supposed to do. They were like, here you got to do ab and C, you’ve got to get enough points so that we can see that the pain is going away or the perceived pain is going away. Right. Let’s pretend you know, like this is a little funny because later on I started acting. I never put that together. I was like, OK, I can act this out. You know, that’s so smart. Wild. Right? So I told you to pretend you just knew that’s what you needed to do to get where you want it to go.

Christina: , 10:21

Right, right. Which is like so strange that I’m in a hospital and that I’m supposed to be getting help and that what I learned is how to manipulate the adults around me. I mean, for good, for my saving my own life.

Christina: , 11:13

But manipulation, by definition, is really just changing energy, just shifting energy from one way to another. So I know you used it well, it was smart. Wow. So let’s back up for one moment because in that moment where that nurse or aide or person, you know, came into the room and shut the door and said that to you, that is like, I can feel it so violently. So how about like for some of the people who are listening, can you sort of talk us through a little bit of how. I almost think that people who are listening are so sensitive that that’s even hearing your story is so upsetting. Right? So what are some ways to sort of, hmm, help that. I’m not sure exactly what my question is, but just the, the, the intensity insensitivity you had, the trauma, that drama, the suffering, the injustices that you had, like how, how do people who are listening embrace that story without it being too hard, you know? And then how did you sort of overcome it beyond leaving that site for that children’s psych ward?

Ashley:, 11:36

Yeah, that’s such a wonderful question and I’m so glad you talk about the experience of your viewers. It’s so important that we remember that our stories have impact. You know, we are not in a vacuum. There are people with us right now. We, I mean the last time I talked to you, there’s a whole, there’s a whole bunch of people involved here. And what I will say is that one of the things that I think, and maybe this will help and maybe it won’t, and let me know if I’m answering your question, is that I feel so incredibly empowered by this story now. So empowered! You know, when I, when I think of that little girl inside of me, I don’t think Christina, what a bummer. You know, what a hard life like I think. Oh yeah, like look what I did. And look what I keep walking through, you know? And so if that is part of it and maybe that’s not, you know, but if part of it is like, oh that poor person because our empathy is like that. Oh my God, that’s so horrible. Don’t feel that for me. You know, that’s part of the message is like I, I am. This is the gift. You know, it’s similar to your story. It’s like that was such a gift.

Christina: , 12:40

Totally. Totally. And I was told things that were so disempowering as well and just like you, the intensity of the situation fueled me to change my life in a way that not only changed my life but went on to change the lives of so many others. So I’m totally in alignment with you on that (and a million other things). It’s so awesome. And also one other element that I think is really interesting that you’re sharing about this and I think is so beautiful about you at such a depth of your soul level… I think about so many of us humans who have to go through health issues to sort of wake up to our spiritual awakening. I, it seems like a very, very common thing. Oh, how did you get started with work? And most people share with me at health triumph story, and you did it at six. I had my transformation at 20 years old. I mean how amazing and what a brave soul, what an incredibly motivated young individual you were to go through such an intense experience and start that spiritual journey at six or seven years old. It’s amazing.

Ashley:, 14:08

That’s really kind of you to say that, and that’s another thing like, people can take away cause it’s like, yeah, it’s even weirder. I will tell you like having it happen at six Ashley, like, at 20 it makes sense, because you could just do it and you like blasted off into your purpose. Right? At six, it’s like I’m still trying to figure out exactly how I can help people know. I think I had been my whole life like ever since that time. What is the thing I need to do to help, you know. So anyway, yeah, it’s, it’s interesting.

Christina: , 15:20

So I wonder, that experience, I know that it probably wasn’t right away, but is that I’m part of the motivation of traveling all around you sound like such a, a well traveled person. What inspired you to travel and see the world?

Ashley:, 16:01

That’s a good question. I feel like, and it’s funny because I haven’t thought about like putting, you know, merging those two aspects of my life. One of the things that I know has been an over and over again, breakthrough for me has been using my voice and make sense, right? Like it gets really shut down if you’re a little, you think you’re going to die. And the people who you think, you know, it’s all just what we think. I thought my parents could come save me. I thought the hospital would fix it. Nobody came, you know? And so we, I learned that my voice, my authentic voice didn’t matter. That was the message, right? So as a very little kid. So I think that my personal journey has been how to use my authentic voice in all these different ways and yeah. So then it was like, OK, so then I, I’ve been pushing my as a, I think a lot of us really sensitive people are often, um, introverts, you know, so I always identified as an introvert until I started speaking up and out and daring myself.

Christina: , 16:15

I mean I was brutally afraid of public speaking, you know, terribly afraid until I had one teacher come up to me in high school and say, you have got to like, you have got to audition for the school play. He’s like, you’re gonna kill it and if you audition I’m going to make you the lead. And I was like, you know, I was like, you’re crazy. Like I don’t know, let the guy side me, Mr Payne.

Christina: , 17:29

I’m sure you remember him!

Ashley:, 17:29

Yeah, exactly right. He’s not even alive anymore. Like, bless him, he was a sweetie pie, but he totally was like, you’re doing this. And I was like, that’s so weird, you know, to get that message. So I did.

Christina: , 18:05

And the way I’m connecting this to traveling is that I end, I end up in my twenties getting a public speaking job that was like really hard to get. I think it was, um, a nine page, like written application than it was like a phone interview in a second phone interview and an in-person interview in to auditions. Yeah, times. And it was a six month training program and it was all about leading a full day workshop with high school students on a microphone with one other person. It was terrifying, absolutely terrifying. But it led me. I traveled and I traveled all over the country. Almost all the states. I’ve been to many places in Canada. I’ve traveled elsewhere too, just because love the experience. But that’s really, yeah, that’s been part of it is just like, I won’t even say that I am such a great public speaker, but what I’m really good at is seeing the fear and driving through the fear.

Christina: , 18:21

Cool. And I bet that you even just simply being present around them is unlocking them too.

Ashley:, 18:21

Maybe… I wonder too.

Christina: , 19:48

So I want to back up just a moment, something that you said within that story you had said that basically the story that you bought, the story that you were told that of course you know, what you felt was true at the time, was that your voice didn’t matter, should be heard or what was the phrase that you used your voice… so that was the story in your head when you were younger that, you know, you’re, you know, suppress that voice and don’t speak out, you know, your voice isn’t important. And then you learn to transition it into three fear to speak authentically to audiences and to really empower people through your voice. And you learned that your voice does have value. Right? So I know that you’re an empowerment coach, so I’m guessing you probably help a lot of people who have those false stories,

Ashley:, 19:50

right? Oh, absolutely. Can you, you speak to that for just a bit because they think that maybe everyone listening has a lot of false stories. What do with. Absolutely. Um, I think that is, it’s so multifaceted and we do, we all have our own stories and I think story is amazing because we live, we live by our stories, whether they are conscious or unconscious, you know, so the way that I, I like to think about it is that first of all, you create your story every single day. We choose what we hold on to as themes and threads for our life, but we can’t really shift that until we notice it and it becomes conscious, right? So it’s a lot of that mindset work that I know that you’re doing with people as well. It’s like how do I talk to people about like, it’s not your fault that it’s unconscious, but it is something you’ve got to draw out, make it conscious so we can.

Christina: , 20:44

I think a lot of the whole empowerment thing is seeding ourselves in a responsible place in our lives. On some level. I’m responsible for what went on with my life and I do speak from a moral soul level. Like somehow I chose it, you know, somehow I was like, give it to me as a little kid so I wore this out, you know, and what that does and I don’t say it like, like, you know, as a little kid I begged to be injured or hurt by the adults around me.

Christina: , 21:57

Good that you brought that up. No. Yeah, right.

Ashley:, 22:33

Like there’s a difference. Slowly it was not my fault. Not In the moment. The way I was treated was not my fault. I’m the power that, that was taken from me. Not My fault, but on some greater soul level. I said like, give it to me so I can go use this for good.

Christina: , 22:35

Right. And so, you know, thinking about our stories, it took me with that story of um, I would say part of it was being a victim. That’s been a story for me in my life until my early twenties. I didn’t even know it was unconscious. Right. I was like, it’s happening to me. Life is happening to me, you know, until I got woken up by a really difficult experience again, of course. And the moment that I realized I was responsible for playing the victim in this dynamic that happened to me with an ex partner of mine, it was amazing. I didn’t shut down. I just thought, oh my God, this is genius. Like I can get out of this. Just like I got into it. Wow, right? So power. Ridiculously powerful. But only because I finally dared to shift a story that was really old and probably generational. As women. That story is like ancient. So I know I’m not alone in that. And I know that when I shifted, when I dare, I say like dare to shift that because it is scary dare to shift it. All these other women get that experience to my family sees it, my family changes how they are with me. My friends change. You lose people in your life because you’re going to attract people that care about you more or are more in alignment. You know…

Christina: , 22:53

I remember a long time ago when I was teaching Reiki, I would always teach people that basically like after you got the attunements, you see the wing clippers fall away, and the wing fluffers would come into your life.

Ashley:, 24:36

Yeah.

Christina: , 24:49

It sort of sounds like kind of what you’re talking about a little bit.

Ashley:, 24:50

Absolutely. Yeah.

Christina: , 24:54

That’s so interesting. I love that. And so as you’re talking about this, I’m noticing how much you are empowering people to move through what scares somewhat debilitates them, what’s stopping them from change and to sort of step into their power to recognize how much choice they have when they didn’t really realize that they had choice. I’ve heard you say, um, you know, that part of the title of what you’re working on with people is emotion into motion. Wondering. So is that kind of apart of the theory of what you offer? What you talk about with people is sort of like recognizing the emotion and putting it into motion or moving through it. Can you talk about that?

Ashley:, 24:56

That’s exactly what it is. Cool. Because I feel like I haven’t always had that feedback. Like what is emotion into motion? So I just decided one day like I was doing a facebook live and I’ll just be completely transparent, like when I get these spiritual downloads and it’s like, go say it out loud. And I’m like, OK, then I go, I try, I don’t, I maybe bullet point it cause I’m like, OK, this should makes some logical sense in the world you know.

Christina: , 25:39

So I get the thing and this was one of them. It wasn’t, it was emotion into motion. And, and what that really feels like to me is that we have these ways of being, um, with our emotions. And again, it’s a choice, but again, we don’t always know it’s choice, right? Until we become aware of it, until an emotion like wakes us up and says like, actually you don’t have to feel this all the time. You, um, it can feel debilitating. I know our emotions can feel overwhelming. When I talk about emotion into motion, what I’m referring to is because we can get overwhelmed, um, it can feel like we get stuck in that overwhelm or in that emotion. And it’s a reminder that, hey, our emotions are ever changing. If you’re somebody that practices meditation or mindfulness or anything like that, sitting and being still and going kind of inside, you’ve already seen that shift, right?

Christina: , 25:39

I mean, we see that shift. If we pay attention to ourselves, we see the emotion go from, oh, OK, like even paying you. No, I’ll sit with chronic pain because I still get migraines and I noticed the pain go like this (up and down). And uh, you know, and that’s how our emotions are all the time. But sometimes it feels like it’s forever, you know, wake up in your, you’re sad or depressed. And it’s like, I’m never getting out of this. Like, why am I, why? Why do we do this life? And um, talking about play and putting it into motion, it’s not that know, forget the emotions and go do stuff like it’s not, forget the emotions and just have action. It’s the emotion can be the driver for action in your life.

Christina: , 27:31

I love that.

Ashley:, 28:11

Absolutely. You don’t have to be victims of it. It can actually feel less because that’s empowering. And I decide that my fear that I’m not going to go through that wall of fear, I’m going to stay frozen in it, that’s debilitating. But if I feel fear and I say, OK, here’s the wall, this is really scary. What happens if I drive towards it? What will that do? And can the fear actually then support me and my power as I walked through into the next, into the next action that I need to take.

Christina: , 28:13

I explained that that makes a lot of science. It totally makes sense. And so, you know, one other thing that I thought was really interesting is it sort of sounded like every time a person makes a conclusion about their fear, like this is how it is, I’m frozen and this, it’s like they’re putting like a thumbtack in it and just keeping the faith like it’s that stagnant energy emotion. Right? So you brought up all these beautiful questions and all those questions had so much motion and fluidity to them, like moving forward, what will that look like and how will that support me and will that move me into my door? And I’m like, wow, that’s so cool. To me, listening to the conclusions are sort of like no emotions, stop energy, questions are so fluid and motion and of what really creates change and gets you out of the stuck.. that disempowerment.

Ashley:, 28:55

Yeah. So cool!

Christina: , 28:55

I vibe with you. I like how you’re explaining it.

Ashley:, 28:55

I vibe with you too and I love that you just like, like throw that back at me because that’s so helpful.

Christina: , 29:58

We both see the same things and like different parts of it. Right?

Ashley:, 30:04

I love it. I love that.

Christina: , 30:08

Oh my goodness. All right, so we’re, you know, we’re nearing the end. So I want to change gears just a little bit and ask you about intuitively hand poke tattooing. I think summer because I really know very little about it. I follow you on instagram and on facebook, but I, you know, we knew what we liked each other and loving each other stuff all the time. So I’m looking at these beautiful creations in these beautiful. I don’t know, I would call them like illustrations, but I don’t know the language yet. I have to listen to you talk about it. So tell me how you got started in that and I know that you also sort of bring these into initiation.

Ashley:, 30:10

Absolutely. Yeah. It’s exciting. I, so I have been doing like one on one tattoos sessions with people and the way. So first of all, the way I got started was that it was something that I literally never in my life wanted to tattoo anybody, like tattoos. I have a fair number of them on my body, mostly machine done tattoos. Um, and you know, I think that I must have seen there was like somebody, I think it was instagram, there was a woman on instagram who was creating these beautiful just shapes, like her own art and it was all hand poked and I realized the woman was like not that far from me in Washington state, this, this particular woman. And I really, really vibes with the work that she was putting out. I just thought it was gorgeous and empowering and beautiful. And so I just on a whim, it’s one of those things like, do you ever like go through your life and you’re like pretty happy with your work and things are going well, but then you have something in your head that’s like, I’ve always wanted to do this right? Like I wanted to play the piano or have always wanted to take voice lessons.

Christina: , 30:50

Yeah, that’s what popped up for you.

Ashley:, 32:06

Totally. But I didn’t know, I didn’t always want to do it. Just came to me, this is what I want to do.

Christina: , 32:09

It was like that thing where I was like, I’m going to teach myself how to do this and it’s kind of like that little kid who was like, you’re not going to live through this, like whatever, whatever. And something happened. And I was like, I’m going to go do this thing. Right. Um, so, so I literally message this woman like on instagram and I was, oh hey, like I’m not stalking you. Like, uh, do you think I could maybe like talk to you about what you do? She was like, absolutely, of course, let’s have tea. So I drove down to where she lives and we had tea and she, I asked her a thousand questions and I showed her my imperfect hand pokes, had to on my leg that I had already tried all the right tools. I make sure I’m very like, clean, you know, I make sure that real tattoo needles, no, like weird, you know, certainly no sewing needles don’t do that, that’s terrible.

Christina: , 32:16

And she was like, that’s not bad. Like just keep practicing and took, made it sound like anybody can really do this. It just takes practice. So I started getting tattoos away. I gave tattoos away for three months. I never did it on, you know, you hear a tattoo artist like poking like fruit or something. So they, they practice on something other than skin. Never did that. I just went straight into like, people you can, you know, if here’s my body go right had wow. Just, you know, some people are like, Oh for free. Well the spontaneous people that are like, I had people who were like, I don’t care if it’s imperfect. Like you’re great and this is great and I’m spontaneous. I was like, I’m not like you, but that’s OK.

Christina: , 32:18

So, so for me, everything, everything I do ends up being, um, being altered and shifted through my intuition, right? Like I get the messages come through and I’m like, OK, well this is fun. Like doing different people’s ideas and symbols and things. And what I realized is that the empower meant work that I do absolutely can merge with this hand pokes how to thing. And what’s become of that is that I’ve done sessions with women where it’s like coaching, counseling, and tattooing on when they’re sitting with me, they’re talking about what they’re going through. This inevitably happens with me anyway. This tattoo is, um, for me to remember to ground myself. That’s when I get a lot. I need something to ground my body, not unusual, right? Like how do I ground into this body, into the earth so that I’m feeling powerful design. When somebody says, I often just say, well, what is it that you’re looking for?

Christina: , 34:09

What do you need right now in your life? And they’ll say, I need to be grounded. I need more grounding. You’re attracting so many people who need to be grounded a lot of people and through Tattoo, which I find makes so much sense, right? Because when you’re getting tattooed, you become very embodied, your very presence, you know, especially being him poked. It’s not your nervous system is not fired up in the way when you get a machine tattoo, the machine is really hard and loud and fast. So you’re actually feeling a lot more pain than when you’re getting the hand. The hand poked tattoos. I always say it’s like the Feminine Tattoo Style. Yes, you feel each poke, but it is like way more easeful. You never get like the bleeding and the greeting that you get from a machines. How to. It’s very chill unless you have somebody not doing it very well, be careful, but you know, but practice around practices.

Christina: , 35:13

Good. Um, but yeah, so, so the intuitive part comes when people tell me what they need and I just draw, draw something that comes to mind and the way that. The other part of what you mentioned was like initiation and um, what’s just started coming up is groups of women. I’m getting groups of people coming so it’s not really, and this is the part that excites me the most because it’s less about the individual, which I love and more about a collective experience. Um, so most recently I was asked to do tattooing for. It was like a private event in a public space, so it was in a big space. Um, and it was this, it was this, um, art collective, female art collective. They were celebrating after they had, I’m sort of a run of sales and things because it was after hours I was allowed to come and do my thing and that was very cool.

Christina: , 36:18

The owners of the place where like, yeah, sure… All good. I tattooed six women, just triangles, tattoo on six women, just tiny, a tiny triangle for very little money because I was sort of trying this out, like, what, what will this be for people? I said, here it is. Here’s the little triangle. This is what you get for 25 bucks. I can do it in red or black. And I had a line, I only had time to tattoo six women. I had a line of women at like out the door, I had like 20 women who were like, if you have time for me, like I want this, I want this in what you were hearing and seeing the whole time it was happening as these women were like cheering each other on many of them, it was their first tattoo. They were really excited and you know, the triangle. It’s like the simple symbol of power and, and the women, right. So it was like very simple, but it was initiatory for some of these women and they had a whole crew. So the whole group of them, it was like 10 friends. They were like right there, like, oh my gosh, this is so amazing, you know, just totally with each other. And they’ll remember that forever, you know?

Christina: , 37:22

So cool. An interesting experience and also sort of interesting to me hearing what you’re attracting and that transformation that occurs around you and with people around you. And very, very cool. All right, well I could ask you more about that, but I am going to keep moving along. Um, my last question to you actually is if you could share words of advice or some encouragement to before listening, a lot of people I think are struggling with their emotions, struggling with burn out, overwhelmed and things like this and it like to be able to thrive. They’d like to feel good and be happy. So what are some words of encouragement or suggested that you might have for them?

Ashley:, 38:36

Yeah, absolutely. So I think something I mentioned earlier is really important to say again, which is that the emotion always will change it. It’s never a stagnant. And if you don’t believe me it is totally worth sitting with that feeling and that feels can feel so uncomfortable and I totally get that. But one of the nice things is I think when we allow ourselves to recognize that we don’t have to just live with something that when we allow ourselves to get really close to it, it no longer defines us. Right? So if somebody is really struggling with a feeling, and I, I swear I have been there, I’ve had years of depression, anxiety, you know, overwhelming feelings of fear, you know, um, and I think the greatest thing is, is being still and it’s simple being still and allowing ourselves to, I’m close our eyes and be with what the feeling is and I don’t mean to sit in overwhelm.

Christina: , 39:24

So if you’re getting overwhelmed and crying and having a I’m triggered, traumatic response, that is not helpful. So if you’re going there, I would say lean out of it and go talk to it with a friend instead. But if you can get close to it, notice it. And, and if you can do that without making up stories about yourself, awesome. Right? So if you can allow yourself to feel into the embodiment of the feeling without making up stories, without blaming, without going into why is this happening? To me it is challenging just to note the body sensations. And that’s what I say, like if somebody is having trouble with this because our brains are amazing tools, right? They just want to throw out all the reasons why things aren’t right and what’s going on because that’s what our brain is for. But if you can actually note the physical sensations, that’s very helpful because it will start to not eagle start to not be defined by the feeling.

Christina: , 40:34

You will start to not be defined by the feeling. Everything changes. Emotions are always in motion. I love it.

Ashley:, 41:40

Love is always in motion. And then the nice thing is if you are an emotional overwhelm, one of the best things you can do is have a conversation with somebody that you care about and I don’t even mean bringing to them you’re suffering. You could do that if it’s the right person and it’s what you need. I just mean emotional regulation like it happens just by calling your friend and saying, how are you? Like, tell me how your day is going, what’s going on? And within five minutes you will, you will feel the emotions settle.

Christina: , 41:47

Interesting. Yeah, I heard that suggestion before. That makes sense. So I like that. OK.

Ashley:, 42:23

Yeah. So it’s just like what are the simplest things we can do? And then like the last thing I would say is looking, being really honest with yourself about, am I empowered? Am I in? Um, yeah, do I feel empowered? Do I feel in alignment or do I feel like I’m disempowering in some way or I’m victimizing myself in some way, you know? And those are really hard questions to ask ourselves, but getting really real about it.

Christina: , 42:31

Yeah, and I love that you offer those questions so much because as you said earlier, when we were in, in the earlier parts of this conversation, it’s not your fault that you fall into place where you feel like is happening to you, which is victim-hood, but you do have a choice about becoming responsible for your life. Asking those questions and looking for what is buried in the subconscious so that you can allow it to surface so that you can change it. Don’t have to continue to be a victim. You have choice there, right?

Ashley:, 43:02

You have such a gift for like rapping, like I’m like listening to you going, she’s an amazing. You’re an incredible listener.

Christina: , 43:35

Oh my gosh, thank you! I adore you. You’re awesome. Its because I align with what you’re saying. I dig it. I really enjoy what you’re saying and it’s very true to my teachings for my clients too. You know, there are people I interview where I’m like “Yeah, uh-huh, okay…”

Ashley:, 43:44

Of course we can’t all be in alignment. I mean, we need all different kinds of people, but I’m trying to imagine you like that and I’m not. I can’t.

Christina: , 44:11

I know I have to get it. I feel like I’ve done that with, but we’ll see maybe I’m over reacting with my response. Maybe I’m not really that much. So, um, OK. I would love it if you could please share with everyone how they can stay in touch with you. What do you have going on?

Ashley:, 44:21

Oh my gosh. So I mean, I’ll just like put it back on you in that I recently, um, my biggest new project has been the millennials spirits that isn’t totally. So an interview series that has three major influencers around how to clarify your dream, unleash your full potential and make money while living in your purpose. So what’s cool about it is it’s not directly about like intuition and empathy and like emotional strength, but there’s a lot of that in there which I think is really, really cool and it does speak to like who you and I work with that audience and. Yeah. And so I got to interview you and I know that this is supposed to be about me right now and how people will, like, I can get ahold of me, but I will just say actually I’ve had more people talk about your interview than anybody else on my summit.

Christina: , 44:37

That’s amazing! It’s so good to hear that.

Ashley:, 45:41

Yeah, you’re amazing. So yeah, changing lives all the time. So there’s the summit, um, and you can still, I think you said you would post that people can still check out all the interviews. It’ll read for one more week. So if that’s interesting to you. Um, and then I would say like the very best way to get ahold of me as honestly through Facebook right now because a lot of shifting, shifting directions with going way more into coaching and counseling. It’s all going online. So the best way is Christina Miglino. I have a business page and that’s the best way to message me or email me. I’m, yeah, that info@ChristinaMiglino.com is my, is my email, but you can post that too.

Christina: , 45:45

OK, amazing. I’ll have all that listed underneath, you know, in the description of this interview so that I to be more listening, can click on those links in and get in touch and I hope that you will take next steps with Christina and stay in touch with her. So is there anything else you want to share about staying in touch with everyone?

Ashley:, 46:30

It’s so funny! You’re so intuitive. Of course usually ask this, but is there one more thing? It’s, it’s, it’s truly amazing because you caught that. Well, I caught it so I wasn’t sitting here going, I got to talk about one more thing. I literally just like, did you make that happen? How does you do that? The last thing that I will say just because it’s exciting and it’s brand new is that my friend who is absolutely incredible at reading the Tarot and I have created a Tarot and ritual tattoo, um, class and initiation experience.

Christina: , 46:52

So it’s going to be at least a two day, probably a two day retreats on Lomi island in Washington State , but if that’s something people want to hear about, we are very excited to get the opportunity to offer it and it’s a very limited amount of women that were taking, um, just because the house that we’re renting can only asleep people, but it will be this summer. It’s exciting.

Christina: , 47:30

Wow. What interesting things you’re doing. This is so exciting. I love it. OK, so links for everything below. You will have access to all that for sure. If any more links become available, we’ll add there after the interview is over. So thank you again everyone for joining us. We’re so grateful that you took the time out to chat with us this evening and be sure to subscribe to the series and get involved in the conversation by leaving a comment. Both of us would really love to hear from you if you have any questions, any comments, any Ah-ha moments, please comment. We would really love to hear it, and so I think you again, Christina for joining me.

Ashley:, 47:56

Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me, Ashley.

Christina: , 48:39

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(Empowerment Coach, Spiritual Counselor and Artist)

About the Author:

Ashley Stamatinos is a five-time #1bestselling author with over 10 years of experience helping Highly Sensitive People. She has also been referred to as the Empath Expert because of her extensive work helping people to stop living in survival mode, and step into thriving in all areas of life.

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